Subject	General comment;I Don't know much about using copper plugs>
Posted by	cainmt (Toledo,OH) on December 31, 2002 at 10:42 AM
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In Reply To	NGK ZFR6F-11 Copper Plugs. I put a set in two days ago and posted by AshsZ (FABio) on December 31, 2002 at 07:26 AM
Message	for the function you guys are discussing, but there is definitely one trade off when using copper over platinum; copper plugs wear much faster because of their proneness to oxidation, thus they have to be changed more often. Platinum doesn't react with anything, even at higher temps. We used Platinum crucibles in some chemistry experiments because the platinum wouldn't affect the chemical reaction, even a super high temps. It is a very stable element and this is what makes it special. Unless you have a special case, I wouldn't change to copper plugs. Just my .02 -Mike ----------------------------------------------------------- 1990 300zx NA 2+0, Man., Aztec red, 94k 2003 VW Jetta 1.8T mike_cain@buckeye-express.com
Follow Ups	NGK ZFR6F-11 Copper Plugs. I put a set in two days ago and - AshsZ (FABio) 07:26:22 12/31/02 I thought they stay cooler than the plat's for engines - dragonballz 07:50:56 12/31/02 ash fails to read that part of posts. - Halo Z 08:02:59 12/31/02 I was told that the plug absorbs the heat of detonation> - AshsZ (FABio) 08:19:01 12/31/02 try regaping to .35, Thats what one of thoose post suggested - dragonballz 08:26:27 12/31/02 Uhh. It would be 0.035", and it wouldn't help idle. It would - AshsZ (FABio) 08:48:49 12/31/02 why don't you just fab up an ignition amplifier, like w/6 - dragonballz 09:22:46 12/31/02 I have already increased the ignition dwell duty in the ECU> - AshsZ (FABio) 09:44:25 12/31/02 intresting, why the need for coppers then? (n/m) - dragonballz 09:48:35 12/31/02 No need, just wanted to check them out. The set was $18. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:02:16 12/31/02 i think it would be good to have a set sense you do tuneing - Halo Z 10:04:20 12/31/02 Perhaps. Interesting thing is though, tuning on the streets - AshsZ (FABio) 10:27:09 12/31/02 Tuning on the street is much better - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 10:32:43 12/31/02 that's my whole point, not every one can do it right. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:28:11 12/31/02 well the question you posted was... - Halo Z 08:47:07 12/31/02 I was only stating that I knew what you were saying. The - AshsZ (FABio) 08:53:05 12/31/02 what where the results? i haven't seen any of ppl with - Halo Z 08:59:31 12/31/02 My results were that with my low fuel pressure - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:33:26 12/31/02 What about the "fragments"? - NoItsaNA 15:21:52 12/31/02 Much better than fragments of piston. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 15:33:58 12/31/02 Someone told me they put the coppers in and 'felt' a - AshsZ (FABio) 09:35:22 12/31/02 forum person, or gatorland? (n/m) - Halo Z 09:47:10 12/31/02 LOL. It was a forum member, he AIM'd me when he put - AshsZ (FABio) 10:01:13 12/31/02 he prob had NA plugs in his TT. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:02:59 12/31/02 Mike(La Canada) used NA plugs in his 11s 1/4mi run on stock - AshsZ (FABio) 10:04:44 12/31/02 blah blah 96 little different blah blah. - Halo Z 10:07:10 12/31/02 I ran my first 12.70 pass with the NA plugs. I burned an - AshsZ (FABio) 10:31:37 12/31/02 you where also having misfires at high boost. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:29:05 12/31/02 That was in the beginning, because the gap was too large>> - AshsZ (FABio) 12:44:43 12/31/02 but will the typical TT get as good as burn with NA plugs - Halo Z 13:03:58 12/31/02 Shaved your mounds? ;-) Please explain.. - AshsZ (FABio) 13:06:24 12/31/02 sigh, nah, you can search for my old posts. (n/m) - Halo Z 19:47:20 12/31/02 Your News Resolution should be to stop attacking Ash - TARGETZ 09:48:51 12/31/02 im not, go back to sleep. - Halo Z 09:50:51 12/31/02 Wish I could pull my engine on a lunch brake :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:25:32 12/31/02 We "swear" by them because - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:27:51 12/31/02 I am running the #7's. They are gaped at .034 - TwinTurboPete 09:51:00 12/31/02 Mine idle perfect with them . Copper is a better - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:12:46 12/31/02 I'll check into that. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:33:07 12/31/02 Got mine from Napa for $1.60. Got to shop around. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:15:36 12/31/02 I got mine from Napa too. :) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:31:57 12/31/02 They saw your cheap ass coming :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:24:18 12/31/02 General comment;I Don't know much about using copper plugs> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:42:57 12/31/02 You are correct. They have to be changed with the oil.>> - AshsZ (FABio) 10:47:23 12/31/02 Yep, like in a catalytic converter> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:55:49 12/31/02 Haha, chm2045 right there. It does get consumed though (n/m) - U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03) 20:00:33 12/31/02 Look up the definition of "catalyst"> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:03:21 01/01/03 That is why we replace copper more often. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 10:47:26 12/31/02 So what's the real advantage of copper plugs over platinum? - U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03) 12:15:51 12/31/02 Preventing a blown piston #6. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:46:16 12/31/02
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